Comments on: Climate Change: the supply-side approach http://www.ecostreet.com/blog/climate-change/2007/12/11/climate-change-the-supply-side-approach/ A walk down EcoStreet is a step in the green direction. Thu, 18 Mar 2010 06:31:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Neil http://www.ecostreet.com/blog/climate-change/2007/12/11/climate-change-the-supply-side-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-68282 Neil Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:16:29 +0000 http://ecostreet.com/blog/climate-change/2007/12/11/climate-change-the-supply-side-approach/#comment-68282 Interesting idea, but we need behavioural change on the supply and demand side. I can see how supply side restrictions would be far faster to implement (assuming the hurdles of getting the disparate cultures to work together can be overcome) but we need demand side changes to create sustainable solutions that change our behaviour from rampant and irresponsible consumption. Interesting idea, but we need behavioural change on the supply and demand side. I can see how supply side restrictions would be far faster to implement (assuming the hurdles of getting the disparate cultures to work together can be overcome) but we need demand side changes to create sustainable solutions that change our behaviour from rampant and irresponsible consumption.

]]> By: alea http://www.ecostreet.com/blog/climate-change/2007/12/11/climate-change-the-supply-side-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-53223 alea Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:42:12 +0000 http://ecostreet.com/blog/climate-change/2007/12/11/climate-change-the-supply-side-approach/#comment-53223 It might be a good idea to leave some easily fossil fuels in the ground... in case we need them again some day for some reason... you never know... It might be a good idea to leave some easily fossil fuels in the ground… in case we need them again some day for some reason… you never know…

]]> By: Chris Vernon http://www.ecostreet.com/blog/climate-change/2007/12/11/climate-change-the-supply-side-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-53176 Chris Vernon Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:11:18 +0000 http://ecostreet.com/blog/climate-change/2007/12/11/climate-change-the-supply-side-approach/#comment-53176 Hi Ricky Goodpoint – if we just introduce prodution caps, along with reduced CO2 we will increase the unequal distribution between rich and poor. Depending on the relitive danger one places on climate change and innequality this may or may not be a problem. However – this is way I suggested Tradable Energy Quotas as a method for insuring fair access to energy for all. Hi Ricky

Goodpoint – if we just introduce prodution caps, along with reduced CO2 we will increase the unequal distribution between rich and poor. Depending on the relitive danger one places on climate change and innequality this may or may not be a problem. However – this is way I suggested Tradable Energy Quotas as a method for insuring fair access to energy for all.

]]> By: socialscientist http://www.ecostreet.com/blog/climate-change/2007/12/11/climate-change-the-supply-side-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-53140 socialscientist Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:43:32 +0000 http://ecostreet.com/blog/climate-change/2007/12/11/climate-change-the-supply-side-approach/#comment-53140 The dichotomy is not supply vs demand. It is public policy vs private profit/individual action. Remove the carbon subsidy. Start with free public transit and a carbon tax. The dichotomy is not supply vs demand. It is public policy vs private profit/individual action.

Remove the carbon subsidy. Start with free public transit and a carbon tax.

]]> By: Ricky Browne http://www.ecostreet.com/blog/climate-change/2007/12/11/climate-change-the-supply-side-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-53094 Ricky Browne Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:40:57 +0000 http://ecostreet.com/blog/climate-change/2007/12/11/climate-change-the-supply-side-approach/#comment-53094 If there is less coal and oil being extracted, then yes it will directly effect the amount of carbon dioxide pumped into the atmosphere, but would there be a problem with how these resources are distributed, does it mean that wealthy countries like America can go on about there business as best they can, while other countries who consume far less fossil fuels will struggle to get there share of these allocated resources. If there is less coal and oil being extracted, then yes it will directly effect the amount of carbon dioxide pumped into the atmosphere, but would there be a problem with how these resources are distributed, does it mean that wealthy countries like America can go on about there business as best they can, while other countries who consume far less fossil fuels will struggle to get there share of these allocated resources.

]]> By: Monte L Schlarman http://www.ecostreet.com/blog/climate-change/2007/12/11/climate-change-the-supply-side-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-52994 Monte L Schlarman Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:51:04 +0000 http://ecostreet.com/blog/climate-change/2007/12/11/climate-change-the-supply-side-approach/#comment-52994 People hate taxes so put a BTU tax on all Fossil fuel energy and all renewable energy would be tax deductible People hate taxes so put a BTU tax on all Fossil fuel energy and all renewable energy would be tax deductible

]]> By: Justin http://www.ecostreet.com/blog/climate-change/2007/12/11/climate-change-the-supply-side-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-52989 Justin Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:35:22 +0000 http://ecostreet.com/blog/climate-change/2007/12/11/climate-change-the-supply-side-approach/#comment-52989 I gotta say, all I would see happening from this is oil companies making a larger margin on the remaining oil supply. Surely the entire issue with cutting supply is that the cost to the consumer will increase. While I agree with the argument that you can't put a price on the health of the earth, I just see this creating winners and losers, in the form of oil companies, and consumers. Mined fuels have a monopoly on the global market, and with no other options we will see an increased cost of living, and increased profits by oil companies. The only way this could work is if we start to see some serious alternatives to oil really being pushed, not just legislation that is paying lip-service to any green campaign. Of course, one could argue that an increased cost of oil would create a larger market for green technologies, but I feel this wouldn't happen without first hurting consumers. I gotta say, all I would see happening from this is oil companies making a larger margin on the remaining oil supply. Surely the entire issue with cutting supply is that the cost to the consumer will increase. While I agree with the argument that you can’t put a price on the health of the earth, I just see this creating winners and losers, in the form of oil companies, and consumers. Mined fuels have a monopoly on the global market, and with no other options we will see an increased cost of living, and increased profits by oil companies. The only way this could work is if we start to see some serious alternatives to oil really being pushed, not just legislation that is paying lip-service to any green campaign. Of course, one could argue that an increased cost of oil would create a larger market for green technologies, but I feel this wouldn’t happen without first hurting consumers.

]]> By: Chris Vernon http://www.ecostreet.com/blog/climate-change/2007/12/11/climate-change-the-supply-side-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-52880 Chris Vernon Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:50:37 +0000 http://ecostreet.com/blog/climate-change/2007/12/11/climate-change-the-supply-side-approach/#comment-52880 Hi Joe, indeed regulating supply is what OPEC does. What we really need is an Organisation of Coal Exporting Countries to cap coal production. Clearly alternatives (fuels as well as alternative technologies and behaviours) are needed but the fact remains that if the want to reduce emissions of CO2 we have to reduce the extraction of coal, oil and gas from the ground. The question is how best to achieve that? By demand-side approaches and the market mechanism or supply-side caps? As always it's not an either-or but I think the supply-side approach deserves more attention that it currently receives. Hi Joe, indeed regulating supply is what OPEC does. What we really need is an Organisation of Coal Exporting Countries to cap coal production.

Clearly alternatives (fuels as well as alternative technologies and behaviours) are needed but the fact remains that if the want to reduce emissions of CO2 we have to reduce the extraction of coal, oil and gas from the ground.

The question is how best to achieve that? By demand-side approaches and the market mechanism or supply-side caps? As always it’s not an either-or but I think the supply-side approach deserves more attention that it currently receives.

]]> By: joe http://www.ecostreet.com/blog/climate-change/2007/12/11/climate-change-the-supply-side-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-52863 joe Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:40:13 +0000 http://ecostreet.com/blog/climate-change/2007/12/11/climate-change-the-supply-side-approach/#comment-52863 OK, but isn't regulating supply what OPEC is doing anyway? And surely without sensible alternatives in place, cutting supply will only lead to inefficient burning of other fuels leading to further greenhouse emissions? OK, but isn’t regulating supply what OPEC is doing anyway? And surely without sensible alternatives in place, cutting supply will only lead to inefficient burning of other fuels leading to further greenhouse emissions?

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